I gotta a feeling this "https" and "Cloudflare" won't apply to my sites.....

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I got an e-mail from Homestead suggesting I register for free with Cloudfare, and then register my sites with them, and I tried, but get this error message no matter what I site I try and list.
 
I am going to assume, that the reason I am getting this error message is because I don't have my websites registered as a domain?
If this is correct, will my websites still be accessible to my customers? 
They mostly are for information.

Another question sorta unrelated to this situation.
One of my websites is password protected, I started noticing a drop-down box appearing when you try and enter a password, I will embed it below.

I appreciate your relpy's.
Sincerely,
NiceSeeingYou aka Keith


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Hey there Keith!
Yes you are absolutely correct. Since your sites are under site names, not domains, the Cloudflare set up does not apply to you. Your site will still be accessible, however, if you want the HTTPS option and to correct that second issue you posted, I would recommend rebuilding any sites you need to have HTTPS with, in our newer builder, Website Builder. Those sites (sitename.homesteadcloud.com) will be secure. We just cannot provide that with sites under Sitebuilder (sitename.homestead.com)

Your sites will also be mobile friendly and a lot more updated in the new builder. To start using it, just log in to homestead.com , click on Websites Manager > Add New Website > and give it a site name. Then Choose design and start rebuilding!
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Hi Elyzabeth
Thanks for the fast reply!
So are you saying in order for my websites to be accessible, they must now read mylearningcenter.homesteadcloud.com?

If you say yes, this will suck because I have spent years with it being mylearningcenter.homestead.com.
My customers will be lost, because their bookmarks won't work and neither will mine!

It's also on all my tens of thousands of business cards that are out in the world circulating.

I need to wrap my head around what is happening now.
Is my offline Site Builder not going to work anymore?


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If you choose to make the changes necessary to have HTTPS capabilities, yes it would need to read in a site name ending .homesteadcloud.com. Your current website will be accessible without the HTTPS, your visitors will just get a warning that the site is not secure which tends to make people feel less comfortable.

One thing I could recommend if you choose to rebuild your site on the .homesteadcloud.com sites, you can put an HTML element on your old site (mylearningcenter.homestead.com) that will automatically redirect to the new site (mylearningcenter.homesteadcloud.com). We wouldn't be able to provide the HTML code for you, but it can be found fairly easily with a Google search.This will affect your site stats, if you track those, but it would get your visitors to your sites. You can then put a disclaimer at the top of your sites to update their bookmark with the new site name. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Say I recreate my main page (http://mylearningcenter.homestead.com) with your online Website Builder, my visitor counter now reads 45,449 will it be possible for you to show that counter with that number on my new webpage?

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Hello Keith
I'm sorry, but no, we cannot move the hitcounter to the new site. I will say, counters like that are actually recommended to not use these days. They use to be relevant as they gave an idea about how many people were interested in your site, but these days, there are more accurate statistics you can look at, that is proprietary to you. Not having it will prevent negative customer experiences if someone is trying to compare whose site is more popular against you and a competitor. Since hitcounters are very easy to fake views, it is not an accurate representation of your site.
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So is there any way to "automatically" merge my current websites, (off the top of my head I have 27+) over to this new "https:// cloud" format? Yes or No

What you are suggesting is, I must recreate every webpage I have ever created, using your on line editor, and not the editor I have been using since 2001, am I understanding you correctly?

If I am, you have brought my worst nightmare to my demise!
Sincerely Keith

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You have 7 Sitebuilder (.homestead.com) websites on this account, and if you want the HTTPS option on them, then yes they would need to be rebuilt. There is not a way to migrate to the new builder, the systems are too different. This would only need to be done if you decide you need or want the HTTPS option. We aren't forcing you over, so you have time.
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If I am understanding this correctly.....
if I don't convert my webpages to the "https" and to the "homestead.cloud" format, then my customers who access my webpages will get a warning box, that my pages are not secure which will probably scare them off correct?

Will my webpages even display after this "https" goes into effect, and I don't convert?

How long do I have before this will happen?

From reading many peoples comments on here, I am getting the impression that a lot of people knew about this change coming for some time, but I was left in the dark! :-(
There was no mention of this in any of the newsletters Homestead sent me, even though I read your newsletters faithfully!
The first I heard about this was via an e-mail from you "Homestead" dated 8-14-18.
Had I known about it sooner, like July 3rd, when my bill came do, I probably would not have renewed! ;-(

I appreciate your time and replies Elyzabeth
Keith
 

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Hey Keith.

Your site will still display, the changes have already gone into affect. If you haven't seen much of an impact, you might not see a big impact. If it becomes an issue, you can certainly use Website Builder because we are able to make those sites secure. Otherwise, you can consider connecting domains to your sites to be able to use Cloudflare. This has been huge news coming from Google, not Homestead. We posted an article in Community with the instructions for setting Cloudflare up months ago, but since we could see not everyone was seeing it, we sent the email out to get peoples attention to the issue.
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Well that e-mail got my attention!
What a nightmare! :-(

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I know it is frustrating to find out about something like this, that affects your sites. If you have any questions or need help with any part of this process, whichever option you choose, let me know. I'll be happy to help.
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Thanks
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I've got the same problem and I am not going in and redo all of my pages. I don't have as many as Keith but it is a pain in the butt to redo them.  I don't understand it anyway.   I did some changes yesterday and have the orange cloud but then I get this message:

Status: Website not active (DNS modification pending)

Please ensure your website is using the nameservers provided:

  • alex.ns.cloudflare.com
  • beth.ns.cloudflare.com
Have no idea what it means

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Merging with a more relevant topic.

Please reference the new conversation here: SSL
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Bummer about the counters not being transferable! ;-(
I worked hard at getting people to my sites and seeing the numbers climb over the years!

You are giving me the impression Elyzabeth, that when "Homestead" was sold the last time, that "you all" decided to stop using the "off line Site Builder, "that I been using for years!"
But you failed to tell the people who were using it, to stop using it, and to use the new one you created on line!
Had you done that, then either we would have started using the new one, or we would have quit Homestead! But we would have been better off than we are now, that is for sure.

I am disappointed in Homestead, for the handling of this situation this way, surely I can't be the only one who feels this way?

I am now 17 years older than I was when I started with Homestead in 2001, I just don't have the drive to alter every webpage I ever created! ;-(

Time will tell how that turns out for my business.
Sincerely
Call Keith aka NiceSeeingYou aka Keith

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No, this wasn't when Homestead was bought last, back in 2012. At that point, we were using Sitebuilder Desktop as well as Sitebuilder Plus. Eventually, those programs just became too outdated. Newer features were becoming available with other builders that just weren't compatible to being written into the software. The program would have needed to be entirely rewritten, which likely would have caused its own issues, but by that time, it wasn't a viable option. Instead, we put our efforts into launching a better product that produces higher quality websites that are more competitive in today's website-building world. Those old Sitebuilder programs unfortunately create websites that look outdated (the narrow site that occupies a certain amount of pixels and then blank space on the sides) because they are not responsive or mobile friendly. They also can't be secured and keep breaking with each update Microsoft does to their operating system. We fixed these issues, and many more, with the launch of our newer builder, Website Builder. We did send out emails letting people know about this. Also, all new websites for the past 2 years have been created in Website Builder.


We did not tell people to stop using the Sitebuilder program because that is not our choice. We can recommend you upgrade to a better product, but if people choose to stay with what they have, it is not on us to try and force you. That has never been what Homestead is about. Other outside forces, such as newer Microsoft updates not allowing the program to work and Google forcing sites to go secure are the only things forcing people to go to Sitebuilder Plus or Website Builder. If you are ok with dealing with the non-secure site, that is entirely your choice. People who have trouble with the installed program but are ok with continually implementing the workaround we have provided can technically still use that downloadable builder. We RECOMMEND you use the newer builder, but ultimately it is up to you to make that decision. I do know that eventually we will discontinue use of the downloadable program since it will at some point become inoperable, but we do not have any set date that the program is going to be taken down, because there are some people still refuse to use anything else and we aren't trying to shut down anyone's site.

I'm sorry you feel that we didn't give you enough time, but we aren't shutting this program down anytime in the near future, so you do have time. Again, let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything else I can help with.
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